The filmmaking duo is responsible for the most superhero-packed movies in the Marvel universe, from Captain America: Winter Soldier and Captain America: Civil War to the two last Avengers installments. They will be returning to the franchise with the highly anticipated Doomsday, which is set to be release next year.

On the heels of ‘The Electric State,’ the two reveal that time they gave the studio back its fee, the “bad luck” actor they fought to cast and why the era of big-budget streaming features won’t be a “healthy part of the business” going forward.